From rgammon at real.com  Tue Sep  7 10:32:38 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Tue Sep  7 10:33:58 2004
Subject: [Player-users] http://www.real.com/linux/ not working with mdk9.0
In-Reply-To: <41306D81.80802@jguk.org>
References: <41306D81.80802@jguk.org>
Message-ID: <413DF0B6.3020303@real.com>

The work around is to run "realplay -n".

This is bug 2840.

J. Grant wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have installed  RealPlayer10GOLD.bin from http://www.real.com/linux/ 
> on my mdk9.0 GNU/Linux system.
>
> Unfortunately it does not work.  Any ideas?
>
>
> I have these packages installed if this is helpful:
>
> pygtk-0.6.9-3mdk
> gtkdialogs-1.2-3mdk
> libgtk+2.0_0-2.0.6-8mdk
> libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.0.6-8mdk
> gtk-engines-0.12-3mdk
> gtk+licq-0.51-9mdk
> gtkhtml-1.0.4-4mdk
> libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-8mdk
> gtk-engines2-1.9.0-13mdk
> libgtk+1.2-devel-1.2.10-29mdk
> gtk+2.0-2.0.6-8mdk
> libgtkhtml20-1.0.4-4mdk
> libgtk+2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-8mdk
> libgtkmm1.2-1.2.9-3mdk
> libgtkxmhtml1-1.4.2-1mdk
> libgtkglarea5-1.2.3-4mdk
> pygtk-libglade-0.6.9-3mdk
> ed2k-gtk-gui-0.6.2-2
> gtk-themes-1.0-9mdk
> libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-29mdk
> nautilus-gtkhtml-0.3.2-4mdk
> pygtk-glarea-0.6.9-3mdk
> libgtkhtml2_0-2.0.1-1mdk
> gtk+mdk-0.1.6-12mdk
>
>
>
>
> Any ideas what the problem is please?
>
> Kind regards
>
> JG
>
>
>
> Below is the log of the SEGFAULT:
>
> $ ./realplay
>
> (realplay.bin:594): Gdk-WARNING **: 
> ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764 drawable is not a pixmap or window
> ./realplay: line 75:   594 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./realplay &
> [1] 595
> [now3d@now1g real]$
> (realplay.bin:600): Gdk-WARNING **: 
> ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764 drawable is not a pixmap or window
> ./realplay: line 75:   600 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
>
> [1]+  Done                    ./realplay
> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./re
> realplay      realplay.bak  realplay.bin
> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./realplay.b
> realplay.bak  realplay.bin
> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./realplay.bin
>
> (realplay.bin:601): Gdk-WARNING **: 
> ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764 drawable is not a pixmap or window
> Segmentation fault
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Player-users mailing list
> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From tomneff0 at verizon.net  Thu Sep  2 20:26:21 2004
From: tomneff0 at verizon.net (Tom Neff)
Date: Tue Sep  7 10:44:11 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Downloading
Message-ID: <4137E45D.8070609@verizon.net>

Everytime I try to download the RealPlayer 10 for Linux, I get the 
error, "Sorry, not a browseable directory".  What can I do to get the 
product?

I'm using Mandrake Linux with Mozilla 5.0.

From admir at trakic.com  Mon Sep  6 12:41:39 2004
From: admir at trakic.com (Admir Trakic)
Date: Tue Sep  7 10:44:11 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Corect plugin for Mozilla* on Linux!?
Message-ID: <413CBD73.7040706@trakic.com>

Dear sir,

I have tryed RealPlayer ver.10 and everything works much better than 
ver. 8. thx a lot... ;-)
Now, I see lot of *.so at real player plugin directory, bur Your Readme 
does not provide me any info which one of them should be softlink-ed at
/usr/lib/mozilla*/plugin/ directory!?

Yes, I know that my browser can be adjusted "Open with ...", but this is 
annoying when some host returns a page like:

PS: Is there any API for writing any web-based players using RealTime!?

Thx, again!

-- 
Admir Trakic
Debian Gnu/Linux user #99406
http://www.trakic.com

From giulioenrico at tiscali.it  Tue Sep  7 00:53:36 2004
From: giulioenrico at tiscali.it (giulioenrico@tiscali.it)
Date: Tue Sep  7 10:44:11 2004
Subject: [Player-users] real10 on mandrake9.0
Message-ID: <4136E5B00000C673@mail-5.tiscali.it>

I tried to install on my Linux Mandrake 9.0 the real player, i'm able to
install but it doesn't start....
in readme file there's this email to write to... so I am...
message shell shows me is :

[enrico@boh RealPlayer]$ ls
Bin/     common/  install.log  LICENSE   plugins/   README     realplay.bak*
 share/
codecs/  doc/     lib/         mozilla/  postinst/  realplay*  realplay.bin*
[enrico@boh RealPlayer]$ realplay

(realplay.bin:2578): Gdk-WARNING **: ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764
drawable is not a pixmap or window
./realplay: line 75:  2578 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
[enrico@boh RealPlayer]$

__________________________________________________________________
Tiscali ADSL Senza Canone, paga solo quello che consumi!
Non perdere la promozione valida fino al 9 settembre. Per te gratis il modem
in comodato e l'attivazione. In piu' navighi a soli 1,5 euro l'ora per i
primi tre mesi. Cosa aspetti? Attivala subito!
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From jg at jguk.org  Tue Sep  7 15:46:42 2004
From: jg at jguk.org (J. Grant)
Date: Tue Sep  7 16:02:15 2004
Subject: [Player-users] http://www.real.com/linux/ not working with mdk9.0
In-Reply-To: <413DF0B6.3020303@real.com>
References: <41306D81.80802@jguk.org> <413DF0B6.3020303@real.com>
Message-ID: <413E3A52.8020100@jguk.org>

Hi Ryan,

Thanks for your reply.  I was unaware of bug 2840.  Could you tell me
more about it?  Perhaps it should be added to an errata on
http://www.real.com/linux/ ? two of my friends also noticed this fault
in RealPlayer10 Gold.

The installer seems a little "quaint".  Some feedback which I hope you
are able to take as constructive:

1. "Forward" used instead of "Next" on the wizard, is this a
translation issue?

2. Release notes window is buggy, displays bottom first and is not
resizable.

3. "Licence Agreement" window also starts at bottom and does not display
text well.

4.  "About Realplayer" window text does not wrap and is difficult to
read/display.

5. "Clip details" window is not wide enough to display the url, so the
right half goes off the dialog.

6. Installer creates an empty "Bin" directory.  Is this directory really
required?  should the 'B' not be in lowercase?

7. Running "realplay -n" when it crashed broke my running sound daemons.
  Restarting the computer fixed it.

8. Installer adds symbolic links in my ~/.mozilla/plugins directory.  I
have in my about:plugins  :-

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible

     File name: nphelix.so
     Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible version
0.4.0.293 built with gcc 3.2.2 on Jul 30 2004

MIME Type 	Description 	Suffixes 	Enabled
audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin 	RealPlayer Plugin Metafile 	rpm 	Yes
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

However, BBC broardband news console, available from various video links
on http://news.bbc.co.uk/ cannot display the video and I get the "Click
OK to download plugin" popups.  I am using Mozilla 1.5

I can get the URL of the ram file from the media links on the Page Info,
this plays fine in the separate realplayer, providing it is launched
with the -n argument.

Thanks for your help.

Kind regards

JG

on the 07/09/04 18:32, Ryan Gammon wrote:
> The work around is to run "realplay -n".
> 
> This is bug 2840.
> 
> J. Grant wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have installed  RealPlayer10GOLD.bin from http://www.real.com/linux/ 
>> on my mdk9.0 GNU/Linux system.
>>
>> Unfortunately it does not work.  Any ideas?
>>
>>
>> I have these packages installed if this is helpful:
>>
>> pygtk-0.6.9-3mdk
>> gtkdialogs-1.2-3mdk
>> libgtk+2.0_0-2.0.6-8mdk
>> libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.0.6-8mdk
>> gtk-engines-0.12-3mdk
>> gtk+licq-0.51-9mdk
>> gtkhtml-1.0.4-4mdk
>> libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-8mdk
>> gtk-engines2-1.9.0-13mdk
>> libgtk+1.2-devel-1.2.10-29mdk
>> gtk+2.0-2.0.6-8mdk
>> libgtkhtml20-1.0.4-4mdk
>> libgtk+2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-8mdk
>> libgtkmm1.2-1.2.9-3mdk
>> libgtkxmhtml1-1.4.2-1mdk
>> libgtkglarea5-1.2.3-4mdk
>> pygtk-libglade-0.6.9-3mdk
>> ed2k-gtk-gui-0.6.2-2
>> gtk-themes-1.0-9mdk
>> libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-29mdk
>> nautilus-gtkhtml-0.3.2-4mdk
>> pygtk-glarea-0.6.9-3mdk
>> libgtkhtml2_0-2.0.1-1mdk
>> gtk+mdk-0.1.6-12mdk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas what the problem is please?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> JG
>>
>>
>>
>> Below is the log of the SEGFAULT:
>>
>> $ ./realplay
>>
>> (realplay.bin:594): Gdk-WARNING **: 
>> ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764 drawable is not a pixmap or window
>> ./realplay: line 75:   594 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
>> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./realplay &
>> [1] 595
>> [now3d@now1g real]$
>> (realplay.bin:600): Gdk-WARNING **: 
>> ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764 drawable is not a pixmap or window
>> ./realplay: line 75:   600 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
>>
>> [1]+  Done                    ./realplay
>> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./re
>> realplay      realplay.bak  realplay.bin
>> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./realplay.b
>> realplay.bak  realplay.bin
>> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./realplay.bin
>>
>> (realplay.bin:601): Gdk-WARNING **: 
>> ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764 drawable is not a pixmap or window
>> Segmentation fault
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Player-users mailing list
>> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>>
> 
> 

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Blog: http://jguk.org/index.html#blog
Radio: http://jguk.org/index.html#radio

From rgammon at real.com  Tue Sep  7 16:34:40 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Tue Sep  7 16:36:02 2004
Subject: [Player-users] http://www.real.com/linux/ not working with mdk9.0
In-Reply-To: <413E3A52.8020100@jguk.org>
References: <41306D81.80802@jguk.org> <413DF0B6.3020303@real.com>
	<413E3A52.8020100@jguk.org>
Message-ID: <413E4590.4060407@real.com>

J. Grant wrote:

> Hi Ryan,
>
> Thanks for your reply.  I was unaware of bug 2840.  Could you tell me
> more about it?  

When the player is run, the first thing it tries to do is find an 
existing player on the current desktop. If it finds such a player, it 
opens a url passed in from the command line in that player. Otherwise, 
it opens a new player.

The code that does this seems to crash on some redhat-8 era systems.

Starting the player with the -n switch causes the player to always open 
a new window, so the crashing section of the code gets skipped.

This may be fixed in RP 10.0.1 Alpha -- see 
https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/downloads/

If you could test this player, it would help us ensure that this bug 
gets fixed for the 10.0.1 release.

> Perhaps it should be added to an errata on
> http://www.real.com/linux/ ? two of my friends also noticed this fault
> in RealPlayer10 Gold.

A good idea... Maybe once we have the bug narrowed down a little more.

> The installer seems a little "quaint".  Some feedback which I hope you
> are able to take as constructive:
>
> 1. "Forward" used instead of "Next" on the wizard, is this a
> translation issue?

Check out a build from the head, we did some HIG compliance work on the 
setup assistant there, including changing the forward button to Next as 
per the HIG.

> 2. Release notes window is buggy, displays bottom first and is not
> resizable.

It shows the top for me... May be a gtk version thing. Feel free to log 
this as a bug.

> 3. "Licence Agreement" window also starts at bottom and does not display
> text well.

Same deal.

> 4.  "About Realplayer" window text does not wrap and is difficult to
> read/display.

Is that the copyrights textbox? Ideally it's something we could someday 
merge into the plugins dialog box.

> 5. "Clip details" window is not wide enough to display the url, so the
> right half goes off the dialog.

There was a bug logged against clips with long titles. The fix was to 
make the dialog start out at a constant size, and let the labels get 
truncated if they were too long.

Any suggestions? Maybe a bigger default size, or a threshold size?

> 6. Installer creates an empty "Bin" directory.  Is this directory really
> required?  should the 'B' not be in lowercase?

Vestigial installer stuff. I think Nick tried to get rid of that 
directory and something broke. Ideally it'll get removed one of these days.

> 7. Running "realplay -n" when it crashed broke my running sound daemons.
>  Restarting the computer fixed it.

Need more info.

> 8. Installer adds symbolic links in my ~/.mozilla/plugins directory.  I
> have in my about:plugins  :-
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
>
> Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible
>
>     File name: nphelix.so
>     Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible version
> 0.4.0.293 built with gcc 3.2.2 on Jul 30 2004
>
> MIME Type     Description     Suffixes     Enabled
> audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin     RealPlayer Plugin Metafile     rpm     
> Yes
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
>
>
>
> However, BBC broardband news console, available from various video links
> on http://news.bbc.co.uk/ cannot display the video and I get the "Click
> OK to download plugin" popups.  I am using Mozilla 1.5
>
> I can get the URL of the ram file from the media links on the Page Info,
> this plays fine in the separate realplayer, providing it is launched
> with the -n argument.

The embedded player runs in a separate process. If that process crashes, 
you can get that error message in the browser.

If you run "mozilla -splash" from the command line, the player will 
print info to the console that might be helpful in figuring this out.

One thing to check is that your player is symlinked into your path, ie 
that you can type "realplay" on the command line, and the player comes up.

> Thanks for your help.

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated!

> Kind regards
>
> JG
>
>
>
> on the 07/09/04 18:32, Ryan Gammon wrote:
>
>> The work around is to run "realplay -n".
>>
>> This is bug 2840.
>>
>> J. Grant wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have installed  RealPlayer10GOLD.bin from 
>>> http://www.real.com/linux/ on my mdk9.0 GNU/Linux system.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it does not work.  Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>> I have these packages installed if this is helpful:
>>>
>>> pygtk-0.6.9-3mdk
>>> gtkdialogs-1.2-3mdk
>>> libgtk+2.0_0-2.0.6-8mdk
>>> libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.0.6-8mdk
>>> gtk-engines-0.12-3mdk
>>> gtk+licq-0.51-9mdk
>>> gtkhtml-1.0.4-4mdk
>>> libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-8mdk
>>> gtk-engines2-1.9.0-13mdk
>>> libgtk+1.2-devel-1.2.10-29mdk
>>> gtk+2.0-2.0.6-8mdk
>>> libgtkhtml20-1.0.4-4mdk
>>> libgtk+2.0_0-devel-2.0.6-8mdk
>>> libgtkmm1.2-1.2.9-3mdk
>>> libgtkxmhtml1-1.4.2-1mdk
>>> libgtkglarea5-1.2.3-4mdk
>>> pygtk-libglade-0.6.9-3mdk
>>> ed2k-gtk-gui-0.6.2-2
>>> gtk-themes-1.0-9mdk
>>> libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-29mdk
>>> nautilus-gtkhtml-0.3.2-4mdk
>>> pygtk-glarea-0.6.9-3mdk
>>> libgtkhtml2_0-2.0.1-1mdk
>>> gtk+mdk-0.1.6-12mdk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any ideas what the problem is please?
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> JG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Below is the log of the SEGFAULT:
>>>
>>> $ ./realplay
>>>
>>> (realplay.bin:594): Gdk-WARNING **: 
>>> ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764 drawable is not a pixmap or 
>>> window
>>> ./realplay: line 75:   594 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
>>> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./realplay &
>>> [1] 595
>>> [now3d@now1g real]$
>>> (realplay.bin:600): Gdk-WARNING **: 
>>> ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764 drawable is not a pixmap or 
>>> window
>>> ./realplay: line 75:   600 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
>>>
>>> [1]+  Done                    ./realplay
>>> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./re
>>> realplay      realplay.bak  realplay.bin
>>> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./realplay.b
>>> realplay.bak  realplay.bin
>>> [now3d@now1g real]$ ./realplay.bin
>>>
>>> (realplay.bin:601): Gdk-WARNING **: 
>>> ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764 drawable is not a pixmap or 
>>> window
>>> Segmentation fault
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Player-users mailing list
>>> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>>>
>>
>>
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From rgammon at real.com  Tue Sep  7 18:28:47 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Tue Sep  7 18:30:07 2004
Subject: [Player-users] real10 on mandrake9.0
Message-ID: <413E604F.1060305@real.com>

Does the 10.0.1 alpha from:

https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/downloads/
... work any better?

giulioenrico@tiscali.it wrote:

>I tried to install on my Linux Mandrake 9.0 the real player, i'm able to
>install but it doesn't start....
>in readme file there's this email to write to... so I am...
>message shell shows me is :
>
>[enrico@boh RealPlayer]$ ls
>Bin/     common/  install.log  LICENSE   plugins/   README     realplay.bak*
> share/
>codecs/  doc/     lib/         mozilla/  postinst/  realplay*  realplay.bin*
>[enrico@boh RealPlayer]$ realplay
>
>(realplay.bin:2578): Gdk-WARNING **: ../../../gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:764
>drawable is not a pixmap or window
>./realplay: line 75:  2578 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
>[enrico@boh RealPlayer]$
>
>__________________________________________________________________
>Tiscali ADSL Senza Canone, paga solo quello che consumi!
>Non perdere la promozione valida fino al 9 settembre. Per te gratis il modem
>in comodato e l'attivazione. In piu' navighi a soli 1,5 euro l'ora per i
>primi tre mesi. Cosa aspetti? Attivala subito!
>http://abbonati.tiscali.it/adsl/prodotti/640Kbps/
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Player-users mailing list
>Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>
>  
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From rgammon at real.com  Tue Sep  7 18:29:22 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Tue Sep  7 18:30:45 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Corect plugin for Mozilla* on Linux!?
In-Reply-To: <413CBD73.7040706@trakic.com>
References: <413CBD73.7040706@trakic.com>
Message-ID: <413E6072.6060603@real.com>

There should be links to nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt in your mozilla 
plugins directory.

Admir Trakic wrote:

> Dear sir,
>
> I have tryed RealPlayer ver.10 and everything works much better than 
> ver. 8. thx a lot... ;-)
> Now, I see lot of *.so at real player plugin directory, bur Your 
> Readme does not provide me any info which one of them should be 
> softlink-ed at
> /usr/lib/mozilla*/plugin/ directory!?
>
> Yes, I know that my browser can be adjusted "Open with ...", but this 
> is annoying when some host returns a page like:
>
> 
>
> PS: Is there any API for writing any web-based players using RealTime!?
>
> Thx, again!
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From rgammon at real.com  Tue Sep  7 18:30:11 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Tue Sep  7 18:31:31 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Downloading
In-Reply-To: <4137E45D.8070609@verizon.net>
References: <4137E45D.8070609@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <413E60A3.6000707@real.com>

http://www.real.com/linux/ and click the "download RealPlayer" button.

Tom Neff wrote:

> Everytime I try to download the RealPlayer 10 for Linux, I get the 
> error, "Sorry, not a browseable directory".  What can I do to get the 
> product?
>
> I'm using Mandrake Linux with Mozilla 5.0.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Player-users mailing list
> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From rgammon at real.com  Wed Sep  8 11:25:50 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Wed Sep  8 11:27:14 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Corect plugin for Mozilla* on Linux!?
In-Reply-To: <413EE49E.7010704@trakic.com>
References: <413CBD73.7040706@trakic.com> <413E6072.6060603@real.com>
	<413EE49E.7010704@trakic.com>
Message-ID: <413F4EAE.4060502@real.com>

Make sure that realplay is in your path.

Try starting "mozilla-1.7.2 -splash" on the command line. The player 
will log some messages to the console which might help narrow down the 
problem.

I'm on debian/unstable with mozilla-1.7.2, and it's working well here.

Admir Trakic wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> Ok, after simlinking, I still get modalles box "This page contains 
> information of a type (audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin) that can be only 
> viewed with the appropriate Plug-in"
>
> This happened on Mozilla 1.7.2 and Mozilla-firefox 0.9.3, even I have 
> restarted both apps!?
> Please advice me further about this issue, since I work on streaming 
> media project.
>
> Regards
>
> Admir Trakic
> Debian Gnu/Linux user #99406
> http://www.trakic.com
>
>
>
> Ryan Gammon wrote:
>
>> There should be links to nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt in your mozilla 
>> plugins directory.
>>
>> Admir Trakic wrote:
>>
>>> Dear sir,
>>>
>>> I have tryed RealPlayer ver.10 and everything works much better than 
>>> ver. 8. thx a lot... ;-)
>>> Now, I see lot of *.so at real player plugin directory, bur Your 
>>> Readme does not provide me any info which one of them should be 
>>> softlink-ed at
>>> /usr/lib/mozilla*/plugin/ directory!?
>>>
>>> Yes, I know that my browser can be adjusted "Open with ...", but 
>>> this is annoying when some host returns a page like:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> PS: Is there any API for writing any web-based players using RealTime!?
>>>
>>> Thx, again!
>>>
>>
>>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From admir at trakic.com  Thu Sep  9 16:15:51 2004
From: admir at trakic.com (Admir Trakic)
Date: Thu Sep  9 17:05:55 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Re: Correct plugin for Mozilla* on Linux!?
In-Reply-To: <413CBD73.7040706@trakic.com>
References: <413CBD73.7040706@trakic.com>
Message-ID: <4140E427.6060106@trakic.com>

Hi again,

Ok, after simlinking, bu I still get modalles box "This page contains 
information of a type (audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin) that can be only 
viewed with the appropriate Plug-in".
The same issue occurs even if I try exemples from "scriptingguide.zip", 
while on Mozilla (1.7.2) and Mozilla-firefox (0.9.3), even I have 
restarted both apps!?

Please advice me further about this issue, since I've begun working on 
streaming media project.

Admir Trakic wrote:
> Dear sir,
> 
> I have tryed RealPlayer ver.10 and everything works much better than 
> ver. 8. thx a lot... ;-)
> Now, I see lot of *.so at real player plugin directory, bur Your Readme 
> does not provide me any info which one of them should be softlink-ed at
> /usr/lib/mozilla*/plugin/ directory!?
> 
> Yes, I know that my browser can be adjusted "Open with ...", but this is 
> annoying when some host returns a page like:
> 
> 
> 
> PS: Is there any API for writing any web-based players using RealTime!?
> 
> Thx, again!
> 

From rgammon at real.com  Mon Sep 13 11:43:29 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Mon Sep 13 11:45:09 2004
Subject: [Player-users] http://www.real.com/linux/ not working with mdk9.0
In-Reply-To: <4142F99A.6040203@jguk.org>
References: <41306D81.80802@jguk.org> <413DF0B6.3020303@real.com>
	<413E3A52.8020100@jguk.org> <413E4590.4060407@real.com>
	<4142F99A.6040203@jguk.org>
Message-ID: <4145EA51.6090501@real.com>

J. Grant wrote:

> Ok, I have downloaded this and tried to use.  Unfortunately there is a
> glibc depdenciy with this version which was not on the realplayer 10
> release:
>
> $ ./realplay-10.0.1a.bin
> Extracting files for RealPlayer
> installation..../home/now3d/r/xxextract.tmp: /lib/i686/libc.so.6:
> version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /home/now3d/r/xxextract.tmp)
> Broken pipe
>
> I am using glibc v2.2.5, part of Mandrake GNU/Linux 9.0
>
> Is there a requirement for glibc2.3 functionality ?  Would you be able
> to release binaries which work with all glibc 2.0 and above distros ?  I
> do not have a plan to upgrade my 18 month old install.

Unfortunate. That player came from a stock redhat 8 build machine with 
libc-2.2.93 which seems to define GLIBC_2.3. Mandrake 9 appears to 
actually predate redhat 8. It's an approximately 2 year old distro.

Previously we were linking on a rh6-era system on the build farm, but 
had to upgrade for gettext reasons (needed bind_textdomain_codeset).

I don't see an easy way of getting rid of the glibc_2.3 symbol.

A couple of options:
1. You can build the RealPlayer on Mandrake, which should resolve your 
problems. 
(https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/developer/gtk/quickstart.html, 
substitute "bingo-gold" for BIF branch, player_all_real for target)
2. You can upgrade to Mandrake 10, which is not qualified for the 
player, but on which the player seems to work.
3. You can try to get Mandrake to qualify their mdk9 distribution for 
the realplayer.

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From lpinera at gmail.com  Wed Sep 15 14:51:50 2004
From: lpinera at gmail.com (Lester Pinera)
Date: Wed Sep 15 14:55:16 2004
Subject: [Player-users] RealPlayer10 installation problems
Message-ID: <4a718f3c04091514511292531b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, 

I'm new to Linux and I'm having trouble installing RealPlayer10 for
Linux on my machine.  I get the following error message:

error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open
shared object file : no such file or directory

I'm running Linux 7.2.3

Has anyone else encountered this problem?

Thanks,
Lester

From tskirvin at ks.uiuc.edu  Thu Sep 16 12:01:07 2004
From: tskirvin at ks.uiuc.edu (Tim Skirvin)
Date: Thu Sep 16 12:07:43 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Color depth for Solaris
Message-ID: <20040916190107.GA2336@ks.uiuc.edu>

	Whatever algorithm you're using to determine the color depth for
displaying on Solaris systems is flawed.  I run with two screens, one with
8-bit color depth and one with 24-bit; however, the player will only
display in 8-bit.  This is annoying, to put it mildly...

                            - Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@ks.uiuc.edu)
-- 
   Theoretical and Computational    http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/
Biophysics, Beckman Institute, UIUC    Senior Systems Administrator
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From gwright at real.com  Thu Sep 16 12:50:54 2004
From: gwright at real.com (Greg Wright)
Date: Thu Sep 16 12:50:53 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Color depth for Solaris
In-Reply-To: <20040916190107.GA2336@ks.uiuc.edu>
References: <20040916190107.GA2336@ks.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <4149EE9E.9060202@real.com>

What is the bit depth of screen zero?

Right now the player will only work on the primary screen.

--greg.

Tim Skirvin wrote:
> 	Whatever algorithm you're using to determine the color depth for
> displaying on Solaris systems is flawed.  I run with two screens, one with
> 8-bit color depth and one with 24-bit; however, the player will only
> display in 8-bit.  This is annoying, to put it mildly...
> 
>                             - Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@ks.uiuc.edu)
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Player-users mailing list
> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users

From thompsma at colorado.edu  Mon Sep 20 07:33:21 2004
From: thompsma at colorado.edu (Matt Thompson)
Date: Mon Sep 20 07:33:29 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Real10 RPM?
Message-ID: <1095690801.19115.6.camel@ixion.colorado.edu>

Does anyone know where to get the RealPlayer10 RPM?  I need to reinstall
it to try and solve a problem on my box.  The problem is the "advanced
RPM" link at http://www.real.com/linux/ gets you the .bin, not the RPM.

Was the RPM pulled?

Matt
-- 
Learning just means you were wrong and they were right. - Aram
   Matt Thompson -- http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~thompsma/
   440 UCB, Boulder, CO  80309-0440
   JILA A510, 303-492-4662

From rgammon at real.com  Mon Sep 20 10:35:27 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Mon Sep 20 10:37:27 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Real10 RPM?
In-Reply-To: <1095690801.19115.6.camel@ixion.colorado.edu>
References: <1095690801.19115.6.camel@ixion.colorado.edu>
Message-ID: <414F14DF.7010708@real.com>

For now, you can download it from helixcommunity.org:

https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/550/RealPlayer10GOLD.rpm

Matt Thompson wrote:

>Does anyone know where to get the RealPlayer10 RPM?  I need to reinstall
>it to try and solve a problem on my box.  The problem is the "advanced
>RPM" link at http://www.real.com/linux/ gets you the .bin, not the RPM.
>
>Was the RPM pulled?
>
>Matt
>  
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From helixuser at kensystem.com  Mon Sep 20 12:24:43 2004
From: helixuser at kensystem.com (Ken Johanson)
Date: Mon Sep 20 12:24:54 2004
Subject: [Player-users] CRITICAL: Re: [Helix-client-dev] Is there not a
 "codebase=" URL for real player	browser-embedding???]
Message-ID: <414F2E7B.6010103@kensystem.com>

Re-post of an unanswered question to another list, inspired by seeing today a brand-new 
windows XP machine falsely attempt to load a Macromedia Flash installer 
(of all things), in the presence an embedded Real plugin (seems like 
overtones of anti-competitive pre-configuration on the vendor's part). 
The result is that the end-user has no idea whatsoever that they need to 
manually find/install Real Player (or even that it specifically is 
needed) to play the content...

The huge problem here is that there is no documentation about what the 
active-x specific codebase should be:

http://service.real.com/help/library/guides/realonescripting/browse/realscript.htm

---

Ken Johanson wrote:

> All,
>
> I've searched like mad but cant find *anything* that mentions what 
> Real player's codebase-URL is.. Does this not exist?
>
> For those who may not know, "codebase" is a standard (html) "Object" 
> tag attribute that indicates what URL can be used to download the 
> program-installer binary from (for windows is typically activex but 
> could be java), if the user doesnt already have the program installed 
> (with the also-given classid).. Its similar to the "archive" attribute 
> in a java applet tag.
>
> Both wm (or course) and QT players have a codebase URL supporting 
> them, and it's imperative for any program to effect an auto-install in 
> case it doesnt exist. So I'm surprised that one isnt more prominent on 
> the web or Reals site...
>
> http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&as_qdr=all&q=%22real+player%22+codebase+activex&btnG=Search 
>
>
> thanks much,
> ken
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Helix-client-dev mailing list
> Helix-client-dev@lists.helixcommunity.org
> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/helix-client-dev
>
>
>

From vdendi at real.com  Mon Sep 20 13:51:29 2004
From: vdendi at real.com (Vikram Dendi)
Date: Mon Sep 20 13:57:42 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Real10 RPM?
In-Reply-To: <1095690801.19115.6.camel@ixion.colorado.edu>
References: <1095690801.19115.6.camel@ixion.colorado.edu>
Message-ID: <414F42D1.8050306@real.com>

Matt,
thank you for bringing this to our attention. I am currently 
investigating and will have it fixed soon. Meanwhile, like Ryan said, 
you can get it from:
https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/550/RealPlayer10GOLD.rpm
thanks!
V

Matt Thompson wrote:

>Does anyone know where to get the RealPlayer10 RPM?  I need to reinstall
>it to try and solve a problem on my box.  The problem is the "advanced
>RPM" link at http://www.real.com/linux/ gets you the .bin, not the RPM.
>
>Was the RPM pulled?
>
>Matt
>  
>

-- 
Vikram Dendi
Program Manager for Real/Helix Players
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From helixuser at kensystem.com  Tue Sep 21 08:19:56 2004
From: helixuser at kensystem.com (Ken Johanson)
Date: Tue Sep 21 08:20:04 2004
Subject: [Player-users] `./realplay` on Redhat 9 (kernel 2.4) hangs
Message-ID: <4150469C.8090901@kensystem.com>

Hello all,

Trying to run the realplayer on redhat 9, launching the shell script 
hangs and notning is printed to stderr/out. Is my OS version too old, 
or? The --help options dont list an option for debugging, this might be 
useful in my case.

Thanks,
ken

From rgammon at real.com  Tue Sep 21 10:35:26 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Tue Sep 21 10:37:29 2004
Subject: [Player-users] `./realplay` on Redhat 9 (kernel 2.4) hangs
In-Reply-To: <4150469C.8090901@kensystem.com>
References: <4150469C.8090901@kensystem.com>
Message-ID: <4150665E.10407@real.com>

This might help:

$ HELIX_LIBS=/usr/local/RealPlayer strace -o log 
/usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay.bin

^C

& send the log.

Ken Johanson wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Trying to run the realplayer on redhat 9, launching the shell script 
> hangs and notning is printed to stderr/out. Is my OS version too old, 
> or? The --help options dont list an option for debugging, this might 
> be useful in my case.
>
> Thanks,
> ken
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Player-users mailing list
> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From helixuser at kensystem.com  Tue Sep 21 10:54:44 2004
From: helixuser at kensystem.com (Ken Johanson)
Date: Tue Sep 21 10:54:55 2004
Subject: [Player-users] `./realplay` on Redhat 9 (kernel 2.4) hangs
In-Reply-To: <4150665E.10407@real.com>
References: <4150469C.8090901@kensystem.com> <4150665E.10407@real.com>
Message-ID: <41506AE4.9000502@kensystem.com>

Here it is: http://kensystem.com/realplayer.txt

Thanks!!!!
ken

Ryan Gammon wrote:

> This might help:
>
> $ HELIX_LIBS=/usr/local/RealPlayer strace -o log 
> /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay.bin
>
> ^C
>
> & send the log.
>
> Ken Johanson wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Trying to run the realplayer on redhat 9, launching the shell script 
>> hangs and notning is printed to stderr/out. Is my OS version too old, 
>> or? The --help options dont list an option for debugging, this might 
>> be useful in my case.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ken
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Player-users mailing list
>> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>>
>
>

From rgammon at real.com  Tue Sep 21 11:02:29 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Tue Sep 21 11:04:32 2004
Subject: [Player-users] `./realplay` on Redhat 9 (kernel 2.4) hangs
In-Reply-To: <41506AE4.9000502@kensystem.com>
References: <4150469C.8090901@kensystem.com> <4150665E.10407@real.com>
	<41506AE4.9000502@kensystem.com>
Message-ID: <41506CB5.3040803@real.com>

It's hung on open("/dev/dsp", O_WRONLY)

You probably have esd or arts running.

$ fuser /dev/dsp
/dev/dsp:             3001  3002  3003  3006  3007  3008  3010

will give you the process which you can kill.

$ ps ax | grep 3001
$ kill 3001

Ken Johanson wrote:

> Here it is: http://kensystem.com/realplayer.txt
>
> Thanks!!!!
> ken
>
> Ryan Gammon wrote:
>
>> This might help:
>>
>> $ HELIX_LIBS=/usr/local/RealPlayer strace -o log 
>> /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay.bin
>>
>> ^C
>>
>> & send the log.
>>
>> Ken Johanson wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Trying to run the realplayer on redhat 9, launching the shell script 
>>> hangs and notning is printed to stderr/out. Is my OS version too 
>>> old, or? The --help options dont list an option for debugging, this 
>>> might be useful in my case.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Player-users mailing list
>>> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From rf-real at live.com  Tue Sep 21 11:12:55 2004
From: rf-real at live.com (Ross Finlayson)
Date: Tue Sep 21 11:12:59 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Displaying SDP 'metadata' in the player?
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.1.20040921111253.027ed360@localhost>

I notice that RealPlayer v10 - when playing a stream that's described by a 
SDP description - does not display any of the text that's in the standard 
SDP "s=" and "i=' lines (even when I use the "View Clip Info" menu).

Is there any way to get the player to display textual 'metadata' that's 
contained in SDP descriptions?  E.g., are there any special SDP attributes 
that the player will understand for this purpose?

	Ross Finlayson
	LIVE.COM

From helixuser at kensystem.com  Tue Sep 21 11:42:59 2004
From: helixuser at kensystem.com (Ken Johanson)
Date: Tue Sep 21 11:43:09 2004
Subject: RealPlayer-Linux browser embedded problems - Was: Re: [Player-users]
	`./realplay` on Redhat 9 (kernel 2.4) hangs
In-Reply-To: <41506CB5.3040803@real.com>
References: <4150469C.8090901@kensystem.com> <4150665E.10407@real.com>
	<41506AE4.9000502@kensystem.com> <41506CB5.3040803@real.com>
Message-ID: <41507633.2090803@kensystem.com>

Huge Kudos on the Linux player - it looks awesome!!! However there still 
a few bugs in embedded mode at least:

(Can see a demo at http://www.breezeway.tv, login as visitor:Bandwidth)

a) The "autoplay=true" embed attribute doesnt seem to work - the player 
loads but doesnt start to play..
b) The play button doesnt sem to work - to get it to play I had to click 
on the javascript-enabled links (the timecode links left of the player - 
note that only the frst two events are valid)
c) The green "Buffering 0%" bar doesnt seem to ever disappear (this 
seems similar to problem I saw on Mac OS-X betas).
d) The javascript command for fullscreen dont appear to be working (they 
do on win32)

Very, very cool though!!

Thanks,
ken

Ryan Gammon wrote:

> It's hung on open("/dev/dsp", O_WRONLY)
>
> You probably have esd or arts running.
>
> $ fuser /dev/dsp
> /dev/dsp:             3001  3002  3003  3006  3007  3008  3010
>
> will give you the process which you can kill.
>
> $ ps ax | grep 3001
> $ kill 3001
>
>
>
> Ken Johanson wrote:
>
>> Here it is: http://kensystem.com/realplayer.txt
>>
>> Thanks!!!!
>> ken
>>
>> Ryan Gammon wrote:
>>
>>> This might help:
>>>
>>> $ HELIX_LIBS=/usr/local/RealPlayer strace -o log 
>>> /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay.bin
>>>
>>> ^C
>>>
>>> & send the log.
>>>
>>> Ken Johanson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Trying to run the realplayer on redhat 9, launching the shell 
>>>> script hangs and notning is printed to stderr/out. Is my OS version 
>>>> too old, or? The --help options dont list an option for debugging, 
>>>> this might be useful in my case.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Player-users mailing list
>>>> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>>>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

From helixuser at kensystem.com  Tue Sep 21 13:07:58 2004
From: helixuser at kensystem.com (Ken Johanson)
Date: Tue Sep 21 13:08:11 2004
Subject: RealPlayer-Linux browser embedded problems - Was: Re:
	[Player-users] `./realplay` on Redhat 9 (kernel 2.4) hangs
In-Reply-To: <41507633.2090803@kensystem.com>
References: <4150469C.8090901@kensystem.com>
	<4150665E.10407@real.com>	<41506AE4.9000502@kensystem.com>
	<41506CB5.3040803@real.com> <41507633.2090803@kensystem.com>
Message-ID: <41508A1E.2070603@kensystem.com>

Yikes!! Ryan, I forgot to mention that your suggestion worked - I had to 
kill arts.

Thanks,
ken

Ken Johanson wrote:

> Huge Kudos on the Linux player - it looks awesome!!! However there 
> still a few bugs in embedded mode at least:
>
> (Can see a demo at http://www.breezeway.tv, login as visitor:Bandwidth)
>
> a) The "autoplay=true" embed attribute doesnt seem to work - the 
> player loads but doesnt start to play..
> b) The play button doesnt sem to work - to get it to play I had to 
> click on the javascript-enabled links (the timecode links left of the 
> player - note that only the frst two events are valid)
> c) The green "Buffering 0%" bar doesnt seem to ever disappear (this 
> seems similar to problem I saw on Mac OS-X betas).
> d) The javascript command for fullscreen dont appear to be working 
> (they do on win32)
>
> Very, very cool though!!
>
> Thanks,
> ken
>
> Ryan Gammon wrote:
>
>> It's hung on open("/dev/dsp", O_WRONLY)
>>
>> You probably have esd or arts running.
>>
>> $ fuser /dev/dsp
>> /dev/dsp:             3001  3002  3003  3006  3007  3008  3010
>>
>> will give you the process which you can kill.
>>
>> $ ps ax | grep 3001
>> $ kill 3001
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken Johanson wrote:
>>
>>> Here it is: http://kensystem.com/realplayer.txt
>>>
>>> Thanks!!!!
>>> ken
>>>
>>> Ryan Gammon wrote:
>>>
>>>> This might help:
>>>>
>>>> $ HELIX_LIBS=/usr/local/RealPlayer strace -o log 
>>>> /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay.bin
>>>>
>>>> ^C
>>>>
>>>> & send the log.
>>>>
>>>> Ken Johanson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to run the realplayer on redhat 9, launching the shell 
>>>>> script hangs and notning is printed to stderr/out. Is my OS 
>>>>> version too old, or? The --help options dont list an option for 
>>>>> debugging, this might be useful in my case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> ken
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Player-users mailing list
>>>>> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>>>>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Player-users mailing list
> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>
>
>

From rgammon at real.com  Tue Sep 21 13:15:11 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Tue Sep 21 13:17:15 2004
Subject: RealPlayer-Linux browser embedded problems - Was: Re:
	[Player-users] `./realplay` on Redhat 9 (kernel 2.4) hangs
In-Reply-To: <41508A1E.2070603@kensystem.com>
References: <4150469C.8090901@kensystem.com>
	<4150665E.10407@real.com>	<41506AE4.9000502@kensystem.com>
	<41506CB5.3040803@real.com> <41507633.2090803@kensystem.com>
	<41508A1E.2070603@kensystem.com>
Message-ID: <41508BCF.7070805@real.com>

Hi Ken,

Could you log this as a bug in the helixcommunity.org issue tracker? 
It'll get it into the queue to be fixed, and it's cool for us to have 
outside users logging bugs.

Ken Johanson wrote:

> Yikes!! Ryan, I forgot to mention that your suggestion worked - I had 
> to kill arts.
>
> Thanks,
> ken
>
>
> Ken Johanson wrote:
>
>> Huge Kudos on the Linux player - it looks awesome!!! However there 
>> still a few bugs in embedded mode at least:
>>
>> (Can see a demo at http://www.breezeway.tv, login as visitor:Bandwidth)
>>
>> a) The "autoplay=true" embed attribute doesnt seem to work - the 
>> player loads but doesnt start to play..
>> b) The play button doesnt sem to work - to get it to play I had to 
>> click on the javascript-enabled links (the timecode links left of the 
>> player - note that only the frst two events are valid)
>> c) The green "Buffering 0%" bar doesnt seem to ever disappear (this 
>> seems similar to problem I saw on Mac OS-X betas).
>> d) The javascript command for fullscreen dont appear to be working 
>> (they do on win32)
>>
>> Very, very cool though!!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ken
>>
>> Ryan Gammon wrote:
>>
>>> It's hung on open("/dev/dsp", O_WRONLY)
>>>
>>> You probably have esd or arts running.
>>>
>>> $ fuser /dev/dsp
>>> /dev/dsp:             3001  3002  3003  3006  3007  3008  3010
>>>
>>> will give you the process which you can kill.
>>>
>>> $ ps ax | grep 3001
>>> $ kill 3001
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ken Johanson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here it is: http://kensystem.com/realplayer.txt
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!!!!
>>>> ken
>>>>
>>>> Ryan Gammon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This might help:
>>>>>
>>>>> $ HELIX_LIBS=/usr/local/RealPlayer strace -o log 
>>>>> /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay.bin
>>>>>
>>>>> ^C
>>>>>
>>>>> & send the log.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken Johanson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trying to run the realplayer on redhat 9, launching the shell 
>>>>>> script hangs and notning is printed to stderr/out. Is my OS 
>>>>>> version too old, or? The --help options dont list an option for 
>>>>>> debugging, this might be useful in my case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Player-users mailing list
>>>>>> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>>>>>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Player-users mailing list
>> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From helixuser at kensystem.com  Tue Sep 21 14:15:08 2004
From: helixuser at kensystem.com (Ken Johanson)
Date: Tue Sep 21 14:15:22 2004
Subject: RealPlayer-Linux browser embedded problems - Was: Re:
	[Player-users] `./realplay` on Redhat 9 (kernel 2.4) hangs
In-Reply-To: <41508BCF.7070805@real.com>
References: <4150469C.8090901@kensystem.com>
	<4150665E.10407@real.com>	<41506AE4.9000502@kensystem.com>
	<41506CB5.3040803@real.com> <41507633.2090803@kensystem.com>
	<41508A1E.2070603@kensystem.com> <41508BCF.7070805@real.com>
Message-ID: <415099DC.1080902@kensystem.com>

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From finlayson at live.com  Tue Sep 21 10:47:13 2004
From: finlayson at live.com (Ross Finlayson)
Date: Tue Sep 21 16:04:07 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Displaying SDP 'metadata' in the player?
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.1.20040921103816.027e8140@localhost>

I notice that RealPlayer v10 - when playing a stream that's described by a 
SDP description - does not display any of the text that's in the standard 
SDP "s=" and "i=' lines (even when I use the "View Clip Info" menu).

Is there any way to get the player to display textual 'metadata' that's 
contained in SDP descriptions?  E.g., are there any special SDP attributes 
that the player will understand for this purpose?

	Ross Finlayson
	LIVE.COM

From pierre1 at racsa.co.cr  Thu Sep 23 18:37:19 2004
From: pierre1 at racsa.co.cr (Pierre van der Laat)
Date: Thu Sep 23 18:47:41 2004
Subject: [Player-users] How can I create playlists in Real Player 10 GOLD
	Linux?
In-Reply-To: <20040921200756.29E57560083@mercurio.racsa.co.cr>
References: <20040921200756.29E57560083@mercurio.racsa.co.cr>
Message-ID: <1095989839.8038.2.camel@host.domain.com>

Does anybody knows how can i create playlists in real player 10 gold for
linux, like the ones you can create on MS?
thnx,
Pierre

From cbeamer at interlynx.net  Fri Sep 24 13:08:06 2004
From: cbeamer at interlynx.net (Colleen Beamer)
Date: Fri Sep 24 13:08:10 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Codec Problem
Message-ID: <41547EA6.9090903@interlynx.net>

Hello All,

I just downloaded and installed RealPlayer10GOLD.  I realize this is a
Helix mailing list, but the problem I have resulted from trying to
used the audio component, which I believe IS Helix.

I tried to play a sound clip on the www.columbiahousecanada.com
website.  On selecting to use RealPlayer G2 (and trying again using
just RealPlayer), I received the normal dialogue box asking if I
wanted to open the file with the default application, "realplay".  I
clicked OK, RealPlayer launched, but when I tried to play the sound
clip, I got the following message:

"The content you are trying to play uses an audio codec that is
obsolete and no longer supported. Please contact the content provider
about using a supported codec."

Any suggestions here would be helpful.  I have the most recent version
of RealPlayer except for the alpha version of the next release.

Regards,

Colleen

From vdendi at real.com  Fri Sep 24 14:01:09 2004
From: vdendi at real.com (Vikram Dendi)
Date: Fri Sep 24 14:01:28 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Codec Problem
In-Reply-To: <41547EA6.9090903@interlynx.net>
References: <41547EA6.9090903@interlynx.net>
Message-ID: <41548B15.4000004@real.com>

Colleen,
Thank you for using the RealPlayer.
As the player informed you - it seems from your experience that the 
audio codec used by the site is an old codec (many generations old in 
fact), support for which has been discontinued in the latest version of 
the player. As you can easily see, providing content in an old codec is 
not really the optimal user experience - and so I would urge you to 
encourage letting the provider know that they should encode using a 
newer codec.
Meanwhile, if you would like to playback this content - you can always 
use the older RealPlayer 8. There have also been some attempts 

that have been made in the community at adding this support to the new 
player - I have not verified this myself.
We appreciate the feedback,
V

--
Vikram Dendi
Program Manager & Project Lead

Colleen Beamer wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I just downloaded and installed RealPlayer10GOLD.  I realize this is a
> Helix mailing list, but the problem I have resulted from trying to
> used the audio component, which I believe IS Helix.
>
> I tried to play a sound clip on the www.columbiahousecanada.com
> website.  On selecting to use RealPlayer G2 (and trying again using
> just RealPlayer), I received the normal dialogue box asking if I
> wanted to open the file with the default application, "realplay".  I
> clicked OK, RealPlayer launched, but when I tried to play the sound
> clip, I got the following message:
>
> "The content you are trying to play uses an audio codec that is
> obsolete and no longer supported. Please contact the content provider
> about using a supported codec."
>
> Any suggestions here would be helpful.  I have the most recent version
> of RealPlayer except for the alpha version of the next release.
>
> Regards,
>
> Colleen
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Player-users mailing list
> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users

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From cviniciusm at terra.com.br  Sat Sep 25 14:26:53 2004
From: cviniciusm at terra.com.br (Vinicius)
Date: Sat Sep 25 14:56:40 2004
Subject: [Player-users] I get the error "Bad Transport" when I try to see a
	trailer.
Message-ID: <1096147613.2553.13.camel@pc.localhost>

Hello,

When I try to see a trailer, I get this error:
"Bad Transport
(rtsp://bariloche.terra.com.br/mibdotnetrm/00/17/16/171606.rm?url=39272936203115)"

What's that means?

TIA, Vinicius.

P.S.:
I'm using these rpm's on Fedora Core 2:
HelixPlayer-1.0.1.367-20040827
mozilla-1.7.3-0.2.0
kernel-2.6.8-1.521

From dig.list at telkel.net  Mon Sep 27 02:10:01 2004
From: dig.list at telkel.net (DIG)
Date: Mon Sep 27 02:10:08 2004
Subject: [Player-users] how to select default browser for realplayer?
Message-ID: <20040927091001.GA31@phenix.rootshell.be>

Hello,

I am using version 10.0.0.297 (GOLD) of RealPlayer on GNU/Linux.  I would like to know what is the correct way to change the default browser for realplayer (which is called for File >> Clip Properties >> Clip source)?

Thank you in advance,

P.S. There is no htmlview nor x-www-browser on my system.

P.P.S.  Direct modification of binary seems to work, but I was wondering what is the right way.  

-- 
DIG (Dmitri I GOULIAEV)
18:01:45 up 68 days, 20:55, 52 users,  load average: 1.42, 0.45, 0.30

From rgammon at real.com  Mon Sep 27 10:40:24 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Mon Sep 27 10:42:42 2004
Subject: [Player-users] how to select default browser for realplayer?
In-Reply-To: <20040927091001.GA31@phenix.rootshell.be>
References: <20040927091001.GA31@phenix.rootshell.be>
Message-ID: <41585088.60004@real.com>

Hi Dmitri,

There's a preference in the preferences dialog box that allows you to 
specify a path to a browser.

This preference didn't work in 10 gold, but should be functional in 
10.0.1 alpha.

DIG wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I am using version 10.0.0.297 (GOLD) of RealPlayer on GNU/Linux.  I would like to know what is the correct way to change the default browser for realplayer (which is called for File >> Clip Properties >> Clip source)?
>
>
>Thank you in advance,
>
>P.S. There is no htmlview nor x-www-browser on my system.
>
>P.P.S.  Direct modification of binary seems to work, but I was wondering what is the right way.  
>
>  
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From kornerup at imada.sdu.dk  Mon Sep 27 05:52:06 2004
From: kornerup at imada.sdu.dk (Peter Kornerup)
Date: Mon Sep 27 12:31:24 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Problem installing RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
Message-ID: 

After installing the system on my Debian Linux system, trying to excute
./realplay I get a segmentation fault:

(realplay.bin:1015): Gdk-WARNING **:
gdkdrawable-x11.c:764:gdk_x11_drawable_get_xdisplay() drawable is not a
pixmap or window
./realplay: line 75:  1015 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"

Can you provide any help for me?

Regards,

Peter Kornerup, Professor      | Email: kornerup@imada.sdu.dk
Dept. of Math. & Comp. Science | URL: http://www.imada.sdu.dk/~kornerup/
University of Southern Denmark | Phone: +45 6550 2357
Campusvej 55, DK-5230 Odense M | Fax:   +45 6550 2325
DENMARK                        | Home:  +45 6591 0395

From rgammon at real.com  Mon Sep 27 12:40:57 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Mon Sep 27 12:43:16 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Problem installing RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <41586CC9.8080109@real.com>

Hi Peter,

You have three options:
- run "realplay -n" instead
- download 10.0.1Alpha:
https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/589/realplay-10.0.1a.bin
https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/587/RealPlayer-10.0.1a.i586.rpm

... or upgrade your distro.

Hope this helps!

Peter Kornerup wrote:

>After installing the system on my Debian Linux system, trying to excute
>./realplay I get a segmentation fault:
>
>(realplay.bin:1015): Gdk-WARNING **:
>gdkdrawable-x11.c:764:gdk_x11_drawable_get_xdisplay() drawable is not a
>pixmap or window
>./realplay: line 75:  1015 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
>
>Can you provide any help for me?
>
>Regards,
>
>Peter Kornerup, Professor      | Email: kornerup@imada.sdu.dk
>Dept. of Math. & Comp. Science | URL: http://www.imada.sdu.dk/~kornerup/
>University of Southern Denmark | Phone: +45 6550 2357
>Campusvej 55, DK-5230 Odense M | Fax:   +45 6550 2325
>DENMARK                        | Home:  +45 6591 0395
>
>_______________________________________________
>Player-users mailing list
>Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>
>  
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From greg at gulik.org  Mon Sep 27 14:40:25 2004
From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik)
Date: Mon Sep 27 14:42:11 2004
Subject: [Player-users] Buffering/Congestion, possible bug?
Message-ID: <415888C9.3040409@gulik.org>

I'm trying to play the following real audio stream:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/media/hitchhikers_episode1.ram

The RealPlayer10 says:

Buffering 58% - Congestion
It cycles from 0% to 99% and repeats continuosly.

It only does this if I use a squid proxy but not if I play it with a 
direct connection.

-- 
Greg Gulik                                 http://www.gulik.org/greg/
greg @ gulik.org

From geoff at direcway.com  Mon Sep 27 14:57:07 2004
From: geoff at direcway.com (Geoffrey Leach)
Date: Mon Sep 27 14:57:30 2004
Subject: [Player-users] RealPlayer, Fedora, Gnome and esd
Message-ID: <1096322227l.4619l.3l@mtranch.mtranch.com>

Esd is by default part of the Fedora/Gnome environment.  RealPlayer  
fails to open /dev/dsp as a result (although it does not stop when this  
happens, it is merely silent).  This situation has existed for some  
time, apparently:  
http://www.jeremythompson.uklinux.net/Fed-C1/Sound.html

Is there any plan to remedy this situation?  Alternativly, is there a  
workaround?  (The above URL points to a repackaging of the released  
binary by the RedHat KDE project, so apparently something is possible.)

From rgammon at real.com  Mon Sep 27 15:24:49 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Mon Sep 27 15:27:08 2004
Subject: [Player-users] RealPlayer, Fedora, Gnome and esd
In-Reply-To: <1096322227l.4619l.3l@mtranch.mtranch.com>
References: <1096322227l.4619l.3l@mtranch.mtranch.com>
Message-ID: <41589331.9000606@real.com>

Help wanted. Our esound code is here:

https://helixcommunity.org/viewcvs/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/audio/device/platform/unix/audlinux_esound.cpp

... but it currently doesn't work.

You can build a player with usound support -- usound's better than 
esound, as it gives an app the information it needs to keep audio & 
video in sync.

Geoffrey Leach wrote:

> Esd is by default part of the Fedora/Gnome environment.  RealPlayer  
> fails to open /dev/dsp as a result (although it does not stop when 
> this  happens, it is merely silent).  This situation has existed for 
> some  time, apparently:  
> http://www.jeremythompson.uklinux.net/Fed-C1/Sound.html
>
> Is there any plan to remedy this situation?  Alternativly, is there a  
> workaround?  (The above URL points to a repackaging of the released  
> binary by the RedHat KDE project, so apparently something is possible.)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Player-users mailing list
> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From gwright at real.com  Mon Sep 27 16:49:11 2004
From: gwright at real.com (Greg Wright)
Date: Mon Sep 27 16:50:50 2004
Subject: [Player-users] RealPlayer, Fedora, Gnome and esd
In-Reply-To: <41589331.9000606@real.com>
References: <1096322227l.4619l.3l@mtranch.mtranch.com>
	<41589331.9000606@real.com>
Message-ID: <4158A6F7.9090405@real.com>

Well, our ESound code works for audio only, it just doesn't keep very
good A/V sync any more. Something happened to it along the way. It use
to do a fairly good job. I think the fix should be pretty simple as
there must have been some small change to the code that broke it.

--greg.

Ryan Gammon wrote:
> Help wanted. Our esound code is here:
> 
> https://helixcommunity.org/viewcvs/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/audio/device/platform/unix/audlinux_esound.cpp 
> 
> 
> ... but it currently doesn't work.
> 
> You can build a player with usound support -- usound's better than 
> esound, as it gives an app the information it needs to keep audio & 
> video in sync.
> 
> Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> 
>> Esd is by default part of the Fedora/Gnome environment.  RealPlayer  
>> fails to open /dev/dsp as a result (although it does not stop when 
>> this  happens, it is merely silent).  This situation has existed for 
>> some  time, apparently:  
>> http://www.jeremythompson.uklinux.net/Fed-C1/Sound.html
>>
>> Is there any plan to remedy this situation?  Alternativly, is there a  
>> workaround?  (The above URL points to a repackaging of the released  
>> binary by the RedHat KDE project, so apparently something is possible.)
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Player-users mailing list
>> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>>
> 
> 

-- 

From rgammon at real.com  Mon Sep 27 16:55:19 2004
From: rgammon at real.com (Ryan Gammon)
Date: Mon Sep 27 16:57:38 2004
Subject: [Player-users] RealPlayer, Fedora, Gnome and esd
In-Reply-To: <4158A6F7.9090405@real.com>
References: <1096322227l.4619l.3l@mtranch.mtranch.com>
	<41589331.9000606@real.com> <4158A6F7.9090405@real.com>
Message-ID: <4158A867.2080805@real.com>

A good starting point may be BytesActualyPlayed, iirc, as that's a 
fairly important function for keeping things in sync.

Greg Wright wrote:

> Well, our ESound code works for audio only, it just doesn't keep very
> good A/V sync any more. Something happened to it along the way. It use
> to do a fairly good job. I think the fix should be pretty simple as
> there must have been some small change to the code that broke it.
>
> --greg.
>
>
> Ryan Gammon wrote:
>
>> Help wanted. Our esound code is here:
>>
>> https://helixcommunity.org/viewcvs/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/audio/device/platform/unix/audlinux_esound.cpp 
>>
>>
>> ... but it currently doesn't work.
>>
>> You can build a player with usound support -- usound's better than 
>> esound, as it gives an app the information it needs to keep audio & 
>> video in sync.
>>
>> Geoffrey Leach wrote:
>>
>>> Esd is by default part of the Fedora/Gnome environment.  RealPlayer  
>>> fails to open /dev/dsp as a result (although it does not stop when 
>>> this  happens, it is merely silent).  This situation has existed for 
>>> some  time, apparently:  
>>> http://www.jeremythompson.uklinux.net/Fed-C1/Sound.html
>>>
>>> Is there any plan to remedy this situation?  Alternativly, is there 
>>> a  workaround?  (The above URL points to a repackaging of the 
>>> released  binary by the RedHat KDE project, so apparently something 
>>> is possible.)
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Player-users mailing list
>>> Player-users@lists.helixcommunity.org
>>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/player-users
>>>
>>
>>
>

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon@real.com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org

From stevecraig at cableone.net  Tue Sep 28 10:04:01 2004
From: stevecraig at cableone.net (Steve Craig)
Date: Tue Sep 28 09:45:03 2004
Subject: [Player-users] RealPlayer 10 for Linux
Message-ID: 

I'm trying to get RealPlayer 10 to work on SuSE 9.1 with kernel  
2.6.5-7.108. After installing RP 10 I decided to uninstall RP 8 (which  
came with SuSE) using KPackage. It must have uninstalled some of version  
10's components because it won't run now. I tried reinstalling over the  
original install, but it doesn't correct the problem. I then tried  
manually uninstalling RP then reinstalling, but still doesn't work.

How can I do a complete uninstall and clean reinstall of version 10?
-- 
Steve Craig
Registered Linux User #356228