[Helix-producer-dev] RE: Helix-producer-dev Digest, Vol 31, Issue 2
Kinson Liu kliu at real.comAdding open-licensing at hc.org. Kinson donald snowdy wrote: > Hello Helix Community.... > > I have the same questions that Vishnuprasad has posted below, however, > I do not see a response to his questions? > > I am using the Helix Producer SDK in a custom application (C#.Net) > that may be sold commercially. I am using the Helix Producer SDK to > run a job file (*.rpjf) to encode AVI files to a RealMedia (*.rm) files. > > I need all the components in the "bin" directory of Helix Producer SDK > (including the Helix Producer ActiveX Control) to be distributed along > with our product. > > Can you please clarify the Helix licensing? > > Thank you. > > Donald. > >> From: helix-producer-dev-request at helixcommunity.org >> Reply-To: helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> To: helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> Subject: Helix-producer-dev Digest, Vol 31, Issue 2 >> Date: 31 Jan 2007 03:56:44 -0800 >> >> Send Helix-producer-dev mailing list submissions to >> helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/helix-producer-dev >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> helix-producer-dev-request at helixcommunity.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> helix-producer-dev-owner at helixcommunity.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Helix-producer-dev digest..." > > >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. RE: About redisrtibutable components (Sujeet Kharkar) >> 2. Web Cams? (Greg Wright) >> 3. [Fwd: [Helix-producer-dev] Web Cams?] (SKHARKAR at real.com) >> 4. Producer SDK - Licensing clarifications (Vishnuprasad M.C.) >> 5. Build problems.... (Greg Wright) >> 6. Producer SDK for OS/X Tiger Intel -- 1st Attempt (Paul Curtis) >> 7. Re: Build problems.... (Kinson Liu) >> 8. Re: Build problems.... (Greg Wright) >> 9. Solaris 10/11 x86 (open Solaris) Producer SDK? (Rick Wager) > > > >> From: "Sujeet Kharkar" <skharkar at real.com> >> To: vishnuprasadmc at yahoo.com, >> helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org,helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> >> Subject: RE: [Helix-producer-dev] About redisrtibutable components >> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:53:33 +0530 >> >> mediasink.dll is distributed with helix producer SDK and is not >> distributed >> with helix producer plus and/or basic, so you should get it as part >> of SDK >> and SDK licensing should apply. >> >> Thanks, >> Sujeet >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: helix-producer-dev-bounces at helixcommunity.org >> [mailto:helix-producer-dev-bounces at helixcommunity.org] On Behalf Of >> Vishnuprasad M.C. >> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:09 PM >> To: helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org; >> helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> Subject: [Helix-producer-dev] About redisrtibutable components >> >> Dear Helix team, >> >> One dll named "mediasink.dll" is missing along with the Real Producer 11 >> Basic. Due to this our product could not encode properly. Is it >> possible to >> distribute this component along with our product? Is there any licensing >> problem for this? >> >> Regards, >> Vishnuprasad M.C. >> >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new >> http://in.answers.yahoo.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Helix-producer-dev mailing list >> Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/helix-producer-dev >> >> >> > > > > > >> From: Greg Wright <gwright at real.com> >> To: Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> Subject: [Helix-producer-dev] Web Cams? >> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:25:54 -0800 >> Anyone have any experience with what web cams are supported >> under linux for use with the producer? I want to order >> something cheap that I can use to work with video capture >> on my linux desktop box here. >> >> I am thinking that just about any USB one would do the trick, >> but I want to make sure first. >> >> --greg. >> >> >> > > > > > >> From: SKHARKAR at real.com >> To: nmcconnell at real.com >> CC: Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> Subject: [Fwd: [Helix-producer-dev] Web Cams?] >> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:50:00 -0800 (PST) >> Forwarding your request to Neal, who might have used web cam's. Most >> of my >> capture experience is with Osprey cards. >> >> Thanks, >> Sujeet >> >> ---------------------------- Original Message >> ---------------------------- >> Subject: [Helix-producer-dev] Web Cams? >> From: "Greg Wright" <gwright at real.com> >> Date: Tue, January 23, 2007 5:25 pm >> To: Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> Anyone have any experience with what web cams are supported >> under linux for use with the producer? I want to order >> something cheap that I can use to work with video capture >> on my linux desktop box here. >> >> I am thinking that just about any USB one would do the trick, >> but I want to make sure first. >> >> --greg. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Helix-producer-dev mailing list >> Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/helix-producer-dev >> >> >> > > > > > >> From: "Vishnuprasad M.C." <vishnuprasadmc at yahoo.com> >> To: helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> Subject: [Helix-producer-dev] Producer SDK - Licensing clarifications >> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:09:13 +0000 (GMT) >> Dear Helix Team, >> >> Could you please clarify some doubts regarding licence. >> >> In our product, we need to encode media using Real Producer. For that >> we need all the components in the "bin" directory of Helix Producer >> SDK to be distributed along with our product. We just need the >> binaries with in this "bin" folder for encoding. >> >> Any particular licence is required for distributing these files with >> in "bin" folder ? >> If yes, what type of licence that we need to purchase? And what is >> its cost? Where do I obtain this licence? >> >> I have downloaded the SDK from >> "http://forms.helixcommunity.org/helix/producersdk/index.html" v10. >> But latest version (v11.0.1)is available in >> "https://helix-producer.helixcommunity.org/downloads". Is there any >> difference between these two SDKs? Is separate licence required for >> distributing these two SDK files? >> >> About upgrade - shall we incorporate the latest SDK files along with >> our product on each release of new Producer SDK? >> >> Regards, >> Vishnuprasad M.C. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers > > > > > >> From: Greg Wright <gwright at real.com> >> To: Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> Subject: [Helix-producer-dev] Build problems.... >> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:17:07 -0800 >> So, is anyone having trouble building the producer lately? >> >> I have tried today on my linux and windows boxes and they >> die with, what seems, the same cvs error trying to check >> out some distribution libs. If I run the CVS command by hand >> I get: >> >> >> [~/ribosome]cvs -d >> :ext:gwright at cvs.helixcommunity.org:/cvsroot/distribution checkout -r >> "producer_11" win32-i386-vc7/p >> rotocol_dist/rtsp >> cvs checkout: Updating win32-i386-vc7/protocol_dist/rtsp >> cvs [checkout aborted]: could not find desired version 1.224 in >> /cvsroot/distribution/win32-i386-vc7/protocol_dist/rtsp/ >> rdtclntlib.lib,v >> >> >> I don't know if it is a temporary cvs issue or some other problem. >> >> Here is my build setup: >> >> >> Build System (V2.4.4) >> time: Mon Jan 29 11:57:15 2007 >> outfile: build.out >> branch: producer_11 >> platform: win32-i386-vc7 >> distribution/archive from: win32-i386-vc7 >> build Type: debug >> build options: debug >> profile: >> d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\umakepf\helix-producer-all-defines >> cvs revision: producer_11 >> copy target: debug >> target(s): toolsall >> >> I am using the same ~/.buildrc I use for client dev work. >> >> Are those dist libs suppose to be branched onto a 'producer_11' >> branch or >> something? It really doesn't look like they are, but, the nightly builds >> seem to work fine. >> >> Also, I would guess that I am using a BIF file that doesn't really >> need to >> checkout any of those distlibs to begin with.... >> >> >> >> --greg. >> >> > > > > > >> From: Paul Curtis <pfc at terrapin.com> >> To: Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> Subject: [Helix-producer-dev] Producer SDK for OS/X Tiger Intel -- >> 1st Attempt >> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:25:35 -0500 >> Mac OS/X 1.4.8 (Intel) with XCode 2.4 >> Using built-in specs. >> Target: i686-apple-darwin8 >> Configured with: /private/var/tmp/gcc/gcc-5363.obj~28/src/configure >> --disable-checking -enable-werror --prefix=/usr --mandir=/share/man >> --enable-languages=c,objc,c++,obj-c++ >> --program-transform-name=/^[cg][^.-]*$/s/$/-4.0/ >> --with-gxx-include-dir=/include/c++/4.0.0 --with-slibdir=/usr/lib >> --build=powerpc-apple-darwin8 --with-arch=nocona --with-tune=generic >> --program-prefix= --host=i686-apple-darwin8 --target=i686-apple-darwin8 >> Thread model: posix >> gcc version 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5363) >> >> The build.out is available at http://www.terrapin.com/build.out.zip >> >> Build System Menu >> Ribosome v2.4.4 >> -> Current Directory: /Users/pcurtis/src >> [0] Set BIF branch (helix) >> [1] Set Target(s) (producersdk_installer) >> [2] Set Profile >> (/Users/pcurtis/src/build/umakepf/helix-producer-all-defines) >> [3] run: build -trelease >> [4] Toggle make depend & makefiles (-e -n) >> [5] Toggle release (-trelease) >> [6] Toggle 'make clean' (-c) >> [7] Toggle clobber (Dangerous!) (-C) >> [8] Toggle halt-on-error (-p green) >> [9] Toggle verbose mode (-v) >> [10] Toggle static build (-tnodll) >> [11] Checkout source for selected target now >> [12] Set Tag/Branch/Timestamp >> [13] Help Page (full help in build/doc/index.html) >> [14] run history: build -trelease >> [Q] Quit >> >> > > > > > >> From: Kinson Liu <kliu at real.com> >> To: Greg Wright <gwright at real.com> >> CC: Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> Subject: Re: [Helix-producer-dev] Build problems.... >> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:38:00 -0800 >> FYI, rdtclntib.lib,v V1.224 is not found in the distribution >> repository. Did it ever exist? >> >> Kinson >> >> Greg Wright wrote: >>> So, is anyone having trouble building the producer lately? >>> >>> I have tried today on my linux and windows boxes and they >>> die with, what seems, the same cvs error trying to check >>> out some distribution libs. If I run the CVS command by hand >>> I get: >>> >>> >>> [~/ribosome]cvs -d >>> :ext:gwright at cvs.helixcommunity.org:/cvsroot/distribution checkout >>> -r "producer_11" win32-i386-vc7/p >>> rotocol_dist/rtsp >>> cvs checkout: Updating win32-i386-vc7/protocol_dist/rtsp >>> cvs [checkout aborted]: could not find desired version 1.224 in >>> /cvsroot/distribution/win32-i386-vc7/protocol_dist/rtsp/ >>> rdtclntlib.lib,v >>> >>> >>> I don't know if it is a temporary cvs issue or some other problem. >>> >>> Here is my build setup: >>> >>> >>> Build System (V2.4.4) >>> time: Mon Jan 29 11:57:15 2007 >>> outfile: build.out >>> branch: producer_11 >>> platform: win32-i386-vc7 >>> distribution/archive from: win32-i386-vc7 >>> build Type: debug >>> build options: debug >>> profile: >>> d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\umakepf\helix-producer-all-defines >>> >>> cvs revision: producer_11 >>> copy target: debug >>> target(s): toolsall >>> >>> I am using the same ~/.buildrc I use for client dev work. >>> >>> Are those dist libs suppose to be branched onto a 'producer_11' >>> branch or >>> something? It really doesn't look like they are, but, the nightly >>> builds >>> seem to work fine. >>> >>> Also, I would guess that I am using a BIF file that doesn't really >>> need to >>> checkout any of those distlibs to begin with.... >>> >>> >>> >>> --greg. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Helix-producer-dev mailing list >>> Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/helix-producer-dev >>> > > > > > > > >> From: Greg Wright <gwright at real.com> >> To: Kinson Liu <kliu at real.com> >> CC: Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> Subject: Re: [Helix-producer-dev] Build problems.... >> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:57:22 -0800 >> Kinson Liu wrote: >>> FYI, rdtclntib.lib,v V1.224 is not found in the distribution >>> repository. Did it ever exist? >> >> I don't know. This is the first time I have ever tried to build >> the producer. If I just let ribosome grind away it eventually >> spits this out: >> >> [#-00001970][2007-01-29 13:39:24][472][ERROR] : Error during job >> threading: Error in threaded call >> [#-00001971][2007-01-29 13:39:24][472][ERROR] : --- Build System >> Error ------------------------------------ >> You have found a Ribosome bug. >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> --- Python Traceback -------------------------------------- >> ------------------------------------ >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\bin\launcher.py", line >> 117, in __runTool >> tool.run() >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\build_exe.py", line >> 896, in run >> ShellToolApp().main() >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\build_exe.py", line >> 470, in main >> apply(self.menu[i][1], self.menu[i][2:]) >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\build_exe.py", line >> 584, in Build >> self.build(self.flags) >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\build_exe.py", line >> 492, in build >> invoke_buildsystem(arg_list) >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\build_exe.py", line >> 111, in invoke_buildsystem >> app = buildapp.RunBuild(arg_list) >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\buildapp.py", line >> 102, in RunBuild >> app.main() >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\buildapp.py", line >> 196, in main >> self.run() >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\buildapp.py", line >> 384, in run >> self.get_files() >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\buildapp.py", line >> 657, in get_files >> self.checkout_files() >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\buildapp.py", line >> 954, in checkout_files >> int(os.environ.get("CHECKOUT_THREADS","2"))) >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\chaingang.py", line >> 1009, in ProcessModules_grouped >> ChainGang( newjobs, num ).run() >> File "d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\lib\chaingang.py", line >> 530, in run >> raise err.error, self.error >> Build System Error: Error in threaded call >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Since I am new to the producer I just want to make sure I am not >> doing something really wrong. Again, the build farm builds this >> same target just fine. Not sure what .buildrc file the build >> farm is using nowdays or any special options passed to ribosome. >> >> I will keep looking into it.... >> --greg. >> >> >>> >>> Kinson >>> >>> Greg Wright wrote: >>>> So, is anyone having trouble building the producer lately? >>>> >>>> I have tried today on my linux and windows boxes and they >>>> die with, what seems, the same cvs error trying to check >>>> out some distribution libs. If I run the CVS command by hand >>>> I get: >>>> >>>> >>>> [~/ribosome]cvs -d >>>> :ext:gwright at cvs.helixcommunity.org:/cvsroot/distribution checkout >>>> -r "producer_11" win32-i386-vc7/p >>>> rotocol_dist/rtsp >>>> cvs checkout: Updating win32-i386-vc7/protocol_dist/rtsp >>>> cvs [checkout aborted]: could not find desired version 1.224 in >>>> /cvsroot/distribution/win32-i386-vc7/protocol_dist/rtsp/ >>>> rdtclntlib.lib,v >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't know if it is a temporary cvs issue or some other problem. >>>> >>>> Here is my build setup: >>>> >>>> >>>> Build System (V2.4.4) >>>> time: Mon Jan 29 11:57:15 2007 >>>> outfile: build.out >>>> branch: producer_11 >>>> platform: win32-i386-vc7 >>>> distribution/archive from: win32-i386-vc7 >>>> build Type: debug >>>> build options: debug >>>> profile: >>>> d:\cygwin\home\gwright\ribosome\build\umakepf\helix-producer-all-defines >>>> >>>> cvs revision: producer_11 >>>> copy target: debug >>>> target(s): toolsall >>>> >>>> I am using the same ~/.buildrc I use for client dev work. >>>> >>>> Are those dist libs suppose to be branched onto a 'producer_11' >>>> branch or >>>> something? It really doesn't look like they are, but, the nightly >>>> builds >>>> seem to work fine. >>>> >>>> Also, I would guess that I am using a BIF file that doesn't really >>>> need to >>>> checkout any of those distlibs to begin with.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --greg. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Helix-producer-dev mailing list >>>> Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >>>> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/helix-producer-dev >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > >> From: Rick Wager <rick.wager at 4thmedia.com> >> To: helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> Subject: [Helix-producer-dev] Solaris 10/11 x86 (open Solaris) >> Producer SDK? >> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:56:59 -0700 >> Hello All, >> >> I am new to this list and learning my way around the Helix community >> and the building of the software. >> >> I have a strong interest in getting a working version of the producer >> SDK for Solaris x86 (10 and/or OpenSolaris). Has anyone done this or >> is anyone actively working on this? >> >> I am very willing to help with or take on this project but my efforts >> to date have been less that successful. >> >> My progress to date: >> - CVS access set up, source code checked out >> - Learned how to use the build system ( I have to agree with other >> comments I've seen here, the instructions are a bit out of date!) >> - Worked through numerous problems getting a compilation on the >> Solaris x86 platform with the Studio compilers, changing both source >> and build settings >> - Converted the threads implementation to be pthreads instead of >> Solaris threads. >> - Managed to get producer.tgz and producersdk.tgz generated and 86 of >> 91 modules to build >> - I have a partially working executable of producer (prints help >> message just fine :-) ), but it does nothing useful since it tends to >> core dump and/or lacks codecs(?) >> >> At this point I'd like to avoid duplicating work that others may have >> already done, or may be doing. And, if I continue on this project I >> think some direction from someone who knows what is going on would >> make a huge difference for my progress. Plus, I'd like to contribute >> the changes back to the community at some point. >> >> Comments? Is there someone working on this that could use my help? >> Are there any fundamental issues with a port to Solaris x86 that I am >> not aware of? >> >> Thanks, >> Rick >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Helix-producer-dev mailing list >> Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org >> http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/helix-producer-dev > > _________________________________________________________________ > Valentine's Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping > http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095&tcode=wlmtagline > > > > _______________________________________________ > Helix-producer-dev mailing list > Helix-producer-dev at helixcommunity.org > http://lists.helixcommunity.org/mailman/listinfo/helix-producer-dev > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Kinson Liu* | Software Development Engineer | RealNetworks, Inc. | kliu at real.com | 206.892.6177